Comments on: To Do List: Vote on June 10, 2008 http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/ Life in South Berwick, Maine Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:25:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: bss http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1933 bss Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:44:06 +0000 http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1933 every time a house goes up for sale in my neighborhood I cringe at the thought of an "anonymous" neighbor moving in. I have to admit I have been blessed with good neighbors. My family has enjoyed the hobby of raising various livestock over the years. The neighbors have been great, most of them have enjoyed bringing children and grandchildren over to enjoy the animals as well. Our hobby doesn't save us any money in fact it is quite costly, but we enjoy it. We don't have the money to fight an opposition group. We go to great lengths to control the waste and any potential odors etc. What has happened to the "noisy one" could easily happen to us. I cringe at the thought. every time a house goes up for sale in my neighborhood I cringe at the thought of an “anonymous” neighbor moving in. I have to admit I have been blessed with good neighbors. My family has enjoyed the hobby of raising various livestock over the years. The neighbors have been great, most of them have enjoyed bringing children and grandchildren over to enjoy the animals as well. Our hobby doesn’t save us any money in fact it is quite costly, but we enjoy it. We don’t have the money to fight an opposition group. We go to great lengths to control the waste and any potential odors etc. What has happened to the “noisy one” could easily happen to us. I cringe at the thought.

]]> By: tim http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1924 tim Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:42:03 +0000 http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1924 quite down,nick!! ha ha quite down,nick!! ha ha

]]> By: Nick http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1923 Nick Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:06:44 +0000 http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1923 Well! I'm convinced.... Well! I’m convinced….

]]> By: Anonymous http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1922 Anonymous Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:29:50 +0000 http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1922 Its not the noisy one that is offensive Hello!!! Its the noise and if you do not know what it sounds like go take an ear. Fun maybe, games maybe, kids fun yes , adult fun for sure. loud and noisy, Ya think. Lets all get a grip quite down and put a muzzle on the noise. Two strokes going around and around not fun to be around So quite down have fun and get along. Yep It just does not matter who moved to town first or who has more money or who does not like each other. Grow up and quite down. It will then get better!!! So I could belive because it was once a wood lot with native Americans hunting ,fishing and fighting with the newcomers to the land. We shoud not have built modern homes in the land of noise. Of course this was long before 1972. Its not the noisy one that is offensive Hello!!! Its the noise and if you do not know what it sounds like go take an ear. Fun maybe, games maybe, kids fun yes , adult fun for sure. loud and noisy, Ya think. Lets all get a grip quite down and put a muzzle on the noise. Two strokes going around and around not fun to be around So quite down have fun and get along. Yep It just does not matter who moved to town first or who has more money or who does not like each other. Grow up and quite down. It will then get better!!! So I could belive because it was once a wood lot with native Americans hunting ,fishing and fighting with the newcomers to the land. We shoud not have built modern homes in the land of noise. Of course this was long before 1972.

]]> By: Nick T http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1919 Nick T Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:29:02 +0000 http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1919 Who ever this Sally is hasn't lived here long enough to know that the "Noisy One" came to live here in 1972 and at that time there were only three occupied homes within a one mile radius of his home at the time and he had a riding area where his own home now stands since 1982. Of course I might be misstaken as I've only lived here in the same house on and off since 1943 and full time since 1972. So Sally get a LIFE of your own and leave good people to themselves. Who ever this Sally is hasn’t lived here long enough to know that the “Noisy One” came to live here in 1972 and at that time there were only three occupied homes within a one mile radius of his home at the time and he had a riding area where his own home now stands since 1982. Of course I might be misstaken as I’ve only lived here in the same house on and off since 1943 and full time since 1972.

So Sally get a LIFE of your own and leave good people to themselves.

]]> By: Faith http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1918 Faith Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:01:55 +0000 http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1918 I know the recall issue is a moot point now that it failed to pass but I think it's only fair to straighten out a few things that were said in this blog about this "Amateur race track" on Emery's Bridge Road. First of all, it was presented to the Town Council without any of the good neighbors notifying the "Noisy One". In fact, to date, none of the neighbors have ever contacted the Noisy One indicating there was ever an issue to begin with. So much for the good ole' days of being neighborly, whether new neighbors or old, and trying to straighten out issues in person. In an effort to mitigate increased taxes due to implementing a new Noise Ordinance, the Town Council recommended the neighbors actually talk with the Noisy One and work out a compromise - which they did. At least the neighbors that cared to speak to him in person. The compromise allowed riding 3 pre-determined days per week and within set times per day. He also offered to re-schedule riding on any one of the pre-determined days if anyone had reason for him not to ride. Shortly after this, the Noisy One was served a Cease and Desist Order because of the neighbors petitions to the Town Council, Zoning Board and Code Enforcement dept., which included many false accusations, including creating this Amateur Race Track among many other blatant lies about what was going on at the property. The Code Enforcement Officer visited the property in question and did in fact tell him to remove the hay bails, tires and flags. Which he did. But at no time (and this is written public record for those of you researching this) was it mandated that he "plough under the track". He was told what needed to be done to meet Compliance with the Town's Zoning Ordinances, and he made the necessary changes. The Code Enforcement officer returned to the property and officially signed off re: the changes. This issue was also brought in front of the Zoning Board and the Zoning Board of Appeals, so to say the Town turned a blind eye is outright ridiculous. The Town attorneys also got involved when the neighbors sued the Noisy One as well as the Town of South Berwick and York County Superior Court felt the Town met their obligations in the matter and dropped them from the civil suit altogether. After all the litigation, time and money spent, the compromise now is to ride 2 days per week - not three - and still within specific times. Not sure that this amount of riding in the Noisy One's own backyard with his young daughters is the reason for the national decline in home sales??? I also happen to know that the Noisy One is surrounded by other neighbors who have their own hobbies/businesses which could be viewed as equally offensive (wood cutting, farming, commercial vehicles, firing range) and he has never petitioned the Town or tried to stir up the neighbors in an effort to end their livlihoods or family fun. None of us live in glass houses and it's too bad we can't be more tolerant of one another and just get along. I know the recall issue is a moot point now that it failed to pass but I think it’s only fair to straighten out a few things that were said in this blog about this “Amateur race track” on Emery’s Bridge Road. First of all, it was presented to the Town Council without any of the good neighbors notifying the “Noisy One”. In fact, to date, none of the neighbors have ever contacted the Noisy One indicating there was ever an issue to begin with. So much for the good ole’ days of being neighborly, whether new neighbors or old, and trying to straighten out issues in person. In an effort to mitigate increased taxes due to implementing a new Noise Ordinance, the Town Council recommended the neighbors actually talk with the Noisy One and work out a compromise - which they did. At least the neighbors that cared to speak to him in person. The compromise allowed riding 3 pre-determined days per week and within set times per day. He also offered to re-schedule riding on any one of the pre-determined days if anyone had reason for him not to ride. Shortly after this, the Noisy One was served a Cease and Desist Order because of the neighbors petitions to the Town Council, Zoning Board and Code Enforcement dept., which included many false accusations, including creating this Amateur Race Track among many other blatant lies about what was going on at the property. The Code Enforcement Officer visited the property in question and did in fact tell him to remove the hay bails, tires and flags. Which he did. But at no time (and this is written public record for those of you researching this) was it mandated that he “plough under the track”. He was told what needed to be done to meet Compliance with the Town’s Zoning Ordinances, and he made the necessary changes. The Code Enforcement officer returned to the property and officially signed off re: the changes.
This issue was also brought in front of the Zoning Board and the Zoning Board of Appeals, so to say the Town turned a blind eye is outright ridiculous. The Town attorneys also got involved when the neighbors sued the Noisy One as well as the Town of South Berwick and York County Superior Court felt the Town met their obligations in the matter and dropped them from the civil suit altogether.
After all the litigation, time and money spent, the compromise now is to ride 2 days per week - not three - and still within specific times. Not sure that this amount of riding in the Noisy One’s own backyard with his young daughters is the reason for the national decline in home sales??? I also happen to know that the Noisy One is surrounded by other neighbors who have their own hobbies/businesses which could be viewed as equally offensive (wood cutting, farming, commercial vehicles, firing range) and he has never petitioned the Town or tried to stir up the neighbors in an effort to end their livlihoods or family fun. None of us live in glass houses and it’s too bad we can’t be more tolerant of one another and just get along.

]]> By: Nick http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1843 Nick Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:42:06 +0000 http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1843 No it failed 2 to 1. No it failed 2 to 1.

]]> By: Bob Mills http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1842 Bob Mills Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:35:55 +0000 http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1842 Did the recall/removal amendment to the Town Charter pass? Did the recall/removal amendment to the Town Charter pass?

]]> By: Sally http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1710 Sally Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:37:13 +0000 http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1710 Well given what I think of the capabilities and performance of several of the individuals, I would actually welcome such an opportunity. Well given what I think of the capabilities and performance of several of the individuals, I would actually welcome such an opportunity.

]]> By: Dave Webster (Not the ex-councilor) http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1709 Dave Webster (Not the ex-councilor) Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:24:09 +0000 http://the236diner.com/2008/06/05/to-do-list-vote-on-june-10-2008/#comment-1709 Sally, I understand where you are coming from, but I don't believe that level of detail is allowed. I don't believe they can even make a mention of what they want cut, because some people may think that is what will actually be cut. That decision lies with the council and manager. Can you imagine what kind of problems would come up if someone said "I want to cut $5,000 from John Doe's salary and benefits" Sally, I understand where you are coming from, but I don’t believe that level of detail is allowed.
I don’t believe they can even make a mention of what they want cut, because some people may think that is what will actually be cut. That decision lies with the council and manager.
Can you imagine what kind of problems would come up if someone said
“I want to cut $5,000 from John Doe’s salary and benefits”

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