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	<title>Comments on: Guest Editorial:  Donna Robison on MSAD 35 &amp; Rollinsford students</title>
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		<title>By: Laura Leber</title>
		<link>http://the236diner.com/2009/05/15/guest-editorial-donna-robison-on-msad-35-rollinsford-students/comment-page-1/#comment-5089</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Leber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bill, and you&#039;re absolutely correct.  We have the authority to decide this, but would NOT do it without soliciting public opinion.  We are awaiting a proposal, and until it&#039;s offered, there isn&#039;t anything to be done about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bill, and you&#8217;re absolutely correct.  We have the authority to decide this, but would NOT do it without soliciting public opinion.  We are awaiting a proposal, and until it&#8217;s offered, there isn&#8217;t anything to be done about this.</p>
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		<title>By: BillStraub</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillStraub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course they do.  The Board of Directors is charged with such responsibilities on behalf of both communities and the interests of the school system.   If it is seriously proposed, let them do their work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course they do.  The Board of Directors is charged with such responsibilities on behalf of both communities and the interests of the school system.   If it is seriously proposed, let them do their work.</p>
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		<title>By: Melinda Longtin</title>
		<link>http://the236diner.com/2009/05/15/guest-editorial-donna-robison-on-msad-35-rollinsford-students/comment-page-1/#comment-5087</link>
		<dc:creator>Melinda Longtin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI.....I e-mailed Dr. Bearden and he responded as follows:

&quot;All Board agendas are posted in advance on our website.  Again, if this
does surface as a Board meeting agenda item it will receive lots of
attention and publicity.  As I said to you in an earlier email, this type
of decision would certainly cause our Board to solicit the opinion of our
community probably through a community forum solely on the topic.&quot;

So as a follow up e-mail I asked:

&quot;Does this mean that the residents would not have to APPROVE the change? A community forum is information only.  Would both towns have a vote?&quot;

Dr. Bearden&#039;s response:

&quot;That&#039;s correct.  The Board of Education has the legislative authority to
enter into such an agreement on behalf of the district.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI&#8230;..I e-mailed Dr. Bearden and he responded as follows:</p>
<p>&#8220;All Board agendas are posted in advance on our website.  Again, if this<br />
does surface as a Board meeting agenda item it will receive lots of<br />
attention and publicity.  As I said to you in an earlier email, this type<br />
of decision would certainly cause our Board to solicit the opinion of our<br />
community probably through a community forum solely on the topic.&#8221;</p>
<p>So as a follow up e-mail I asked:</p>
<p>&#8220;Does this mean that the residents would not have to APPROVE the change? A community forum is information only.  Would both towns have a vote?&#8221;</p>
<p>Dr. Bearden&#8217;s response:</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s correct.  The Board of Education has the legislative authority to<br />
enter into such an agreement on behalf of the district.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BillStraub</title>
		<link>http://the236diner.com/2009/05/15/guest-editorial-donna-robison-on-msad-35-rollinsford-students/comment-page-1/#comment-5086</link>
		<dc:creator>BillStraub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people presume an outcome, before any real analysis is done.  I think if this is considered, SAD 35  would do a level headed analysis, without biases, and we all could  see what the results are for a given proposal.  All proposals would not be the same.    I certainly would not reject all possibilities out of hand on the basis of presumptions and forgone conclusions.  I&#039;d like to see how  rational evaluations shakes out.  No need to be afraid of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people presume an outcome, before any real analysis is done.  I think if this is considered, SAD 35  would do a level headed analysis, without biases, and we all could  see what the results are for a given proposal.  All proposals would not be the same.    I certainly would not reject all possibilities out of hand on the basis of presumptions and forgone conclusions.  I&#8217;d like to see how  rational evaluations shakes out.  No need to be afraid of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Melinda Longtin</title>
		<link>http://the236diner.com/2009/05/15/guest-editorial-donna-robison-on-msad-35-rollinsford-students/comment-page-1/#comment-5085</link>
		<dc:creator>Melinda Longtin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worry that the quality of the education would suffer.  Yes, it doesn&#039;t seem like any big deal to have 3 extra kids in a class, but it is.  When our class sizes are already around 21-25 kids per class it does make a difference.  Our teachers are already stretched thin.  A high school teacher who has 6 classes that is an additional 18 kids.  18 projects to correct, 18 tests to evaluate, etc.  You will burn our teachers out!

The guidance staff at the high school stated in a school board meeting that they were already stretched thin.  The department will want another staff member.  The list goes on.  Another custodial person to help clean up after the 140 additional students.  Extra buses to get those children to our schools.  The wear and tear on our buildings (yes believe it or not extra people in a building do cause additional work -- look at when you have kids at home versus not!?).

As well, when you take on another school being Kittery or Rollinsford you have to take everyone.

So,  to answer a previous comment... Would we have more teachers (No) the answer should be yes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worry that the quality of the education would suffer.  Yes, it doesn&#8217;t seem like any big deal to have 3 extra kids in a class, but it is.  When our class sizes are already around 21-25 kids per class it does make a difference.  Our teachers are already stretched thin.  A high school teacher who has 6 classes that is an additional 18 kids.  18 projects to correct, 18 tests to evaluate, etc.  You will burn our teachers out!</p>
<p>The guidance staff at the high school stated in a school board meeting that they were already stretched thin.  The department will want another staff member.  The list goes on.  Another custodial person to help clean up after the 140 additional students.  Extra buses to get those children to our schools.  The wear and tear on our buildings (yes believe it or not extra people in a building do cause additional work &#8212; look at when you have kids at home versus not!?).</p>
<p>As well, when you take on another school being Kittery or Rollinsford you have to take everyone.</p>
<p>So,  to answer a previous comment&#8230; Would we have more teachers (No) the answer should be yes!</p>
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		<title>By: BillStraub</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillStraub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it does.  

Tuitioning students, if it makes economiuc sense when fairly evaluated, may be an appropriate way of lowering local costs for &quot;fixed assets&quot;, be they buildings or people.  I hope they do look at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it does.  </p>
<p>Tuitioning students, if it makes economiuc sense when fairly evaluated, may be an appropriate way of lowering local costs for &#8220;fixed assets&#8221;, be they buildings or people.  I hope they do look at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Melinda Longtin</title>
		<link>http://the236diner.com/2009/05/15/guest-editorial-donna-robison-on-msad-35-rollinsford-students/comment-page-1/#comment-5080</link>
		<dc:creator>Melinda Longtin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill;

Please read the article again.  It states the following in the article:

&quot;In the end, it was agreed that issues such as potential shared transportation, central office staffing, facilities and some discussion of tuitioning high school students in the future would come up moving forward.&quot;

As well, I e-mailed Dr. Bearden and he reiterated this sentiment.

Previous to the meeting I had e-mailed Dr. Bearden asking him if during this meeting they were going to be talking of this as I was told that was on Kittery&#039;s Agenda per one of their School Board Member.

This is what Dr. Bearden wrote to me:
&quot;MSAD 35 does not allow tuition students at this point.  

Having said that, our Board of Directors will be meeting with the Kittery
School Committee on Tuesday, June 16th at 6pm in Kittery to discuss if
there are other ways we might be able to work together in the future in
order to be even more efficient.  Currently, we do some bulk bidding on
certain items and try to coordinate some of our professional development
activities.  I&#039;m not sure what will surface in that discussion but it
should be an interesting, and hopefully productive, conversation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill;</p>
<p>Please read the article again.  It states the following in the article:</p>
<p>&#8220;In the end, it was agreed that issues such as potential shared transportation, central office staffing, facilities and some discussion of tuitioning high school students in the future would come up moving forward.&#8221;</p>
<p>As well, I e-mailed Dr. Bearden and he reiterated this sentiment.</p>
<p>Previous to the meeting I had e-mailed Dr. Bearden asking him if during this meeting they were going to be talking of this as I was told that was on Kittery&#8217;s Agenda per one of their School Board Member.</p>
<p>This is what Dr. Bearden wrote to me:<br />
&#8220;MSAD 35 does not allow tuition students at this point.  </p>
<p>Having said that, our Board of Directors will be meeting with the Kittery<br />
School Committee on Tuesday, June 16th at 6pm in Kittery to discuss if<br />
there are other ways we might be able to work together in the future in<br />
order to be even more efficient.  Currently, we do some bulk bidding on<br />
certain items and try to coordinate some of our professional development<br />
activities.  I&#8217;m not sure what will surface in that discussion but it<br />
should be an interesting, and hopefully productive, conversation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Leber</title>
		<link>http://the236diner.com/2009/05/15/guest-editorial-donna-robison-on-msad-35-rollinsford-students/comment-page-1/#comment-5079</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Leber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually you&#039;re both right.  We discussed collaboration and did not rule out tuitioning students in to Marshwood.  

We will be forming a committee that will most likely consist of 2 board members and the superintendents of both school districts.  The purpose of the committee will be to explore various ways that the districts&#039; can derive benefits from each other and hopefully cut costs while also delivering quality education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually you&#8217;re both right.  We discussed collaboration and did not rule out tuitioning students in to Marshwood.  </p>
<p>We will be forming a committee that will most likely consist of 2 board members and the superintendents of both school districts.  The purpose of the committee will be to explore various ways that the districts&#8217; can derive benefits from each other and hopefully cut costs while also delivering quality education.</p>
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		<title>By: BillStraub</title>
		<link>http://the236diner.com/2009/05/15/guest-editorial-donna-robison-on-msad-35-rollinsford-students/comment-page-1/#comment-5078</link>
		<dc:creator>BillStraub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the article does not mention or discuss tuitioning at all.  It was about looking for ways to jointly save costs.  Things like purchasing programs and transportation.  

Quoting:

&quot;The two school committees from Kittery and School Administrative District 35 met Tuesday night, hoping to find ways to share programs and cut costs through collaboration.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the article does not mention or discuss tuitioning at all.  It was about looking for ways to jointly save costs.  Things like purchasing programs and transportation.  </p>
<p>Quoting:</p>
<p>&#8220;The two school committees from Kittery and School Administrative District 35 met Tuesday night, hoping to find ways to share programs and cut costs through collaboration.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Melinda Longtin</title>
		<link>http://the236diner.com/2009/05/15/guest-editorial-donna-robison-on-msad-35-rollinsford-students/comment-page-1/#comment-5076</link>
		<dc:creator>Melinda Longtin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seacoastonline.com stated in an article today that MSAD #35 and Kittery met last night and have agreed to talk about tuitioning of their students as well.

http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090617/NEWS/906170366&amp;emailAFriend=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seacoastonline.com stated in an article today that MSAD #35 and Kittery met last night and have agreed to talk about tuitioning of their students as well.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090617/NEWS/906170366&#038;emailAFriend=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090617/NEWS/906170366&#038;emailAFriend=1</a></p>
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